Can Libertarians protect personal rights and freedoms from big business interests?

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Joseph L
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Can Libertarians protect personal rights and freedoms from big business interests?

How would a libertarian government protect workers from being exploited, exposed to harmfull work environments etc?

How is it that if I work for a company I don't own any share of it? How in a democracy can we have undemocatic business's with totalitarian bosses?

How do you protect consumers from harmfull or unknown products?

How about Canada's vast supply of natural resourses be protected since according to law every single Canadian owns the resourses of the land? How would this be managed so that foreign or domistic companies don't pillage the resources we all own and for future generations?

I personally believe that my rights are just as equal and or greater to those of any corporation. Since a corporation has "limited liability" and my life may or may not be disrupted or polluted by a legal entity with limited liability, how would I be protected?

Rob_Kuhlmann
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Re: Can Libertarians protect personal rights and freedoms from big business interests?

The answer to all those questions is quite simple. Under a libertarian government, individuals are free to do whatever they CHOOSE to do ,provided THEY DO NOT CAUSE HARM TO OTHERS OR INFRINGE ON THEIR RIGHTS TO CHOOSE FOR THEMSELVES. As soon as one transgresses that boundary ,it becomes a matter for police and the courts. A criminal offence has taken place charges can be laid accordingly. Once they can be objectively proven in a court of law, the proper compensation and or sentencing can be applied.

j_m
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Speaking only for myself, and not for any party:

Many Minarchists and Anarchists. including myself, reject the shield against accountability  created by the  "limited liability" corporation, and the legal concept of "corporate personhood", and believe that the owners of a firm, that is the partners or shareholders as the case may be should be personally responsible for all violations of the rights of other persons that occur as a result of the firms activities, and for its financial losses.

Under existing law the countries natural resources are not owned by "every single Canadian", rather their ownership is claimed by the State which is a very different thing.

If you wish to have an ownership share of the firm you work for you are able to do that by investing in it, through the purchase of shares and so forth. There is no right of ownership in a firm that derives merely from being its employee, unless of course you are a self employed individual or a partner in a partnership.

Consumer product safety certification can be provided by non-governmental organizations. Many such organizations exist today in various fields: CSA, ANSI, Snell etc.

Jim McIntosh
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Re: Can Libertarians protect personal rights and freedoms from big business interests?

In a libertarian society, the only function of government is to prevent, discourage and prosecute anyone who initiates violence against others. As long as workers are free to quit the company they are working for, it is hard to say they are being exploited. You may consider a factory in a developing country is exploiting its poor workers, but as long as they are free to leave and find other means of support, one has to assume they are working in the factory because it is the best option available to them. One might ask if the current or previous governments are responsible for the lack of better choices.

You could own a share of the company you work for. It is a simple matter of your employment agreement. If all you agree to is to trade your labour and/or brains for money, then you should be happy with the money. I worked for two companies that agreed to give me shares of the company in exchange for 10% of my pay. If you don’t like your “totalitarian” boss then you are free to quit and find a better boss.

As long as a company has to compete for customers (unlike a government-mandated monopoly) they will want to keep as many as possible, and will do everything they can to keep their products from harming them. Their insurance companies also have an interest in helping them avoid claims. That’s why the insurance companies have boiler inspectors (to reduce the number of exploding boilers) and why they created Underwriters Laboratory (to set standards for electrical wiring and appliances to reduce the number of house fires).

Limited Liability companies are a creation of the state. They originated when the King wanted some major project done (like building London Bridge?) and were limited to the specific project. No doubt some wealthy nobles agreed to do it if the king would limit their liability. As a by-product, it made selling shares in the corporation more attractive to not-so-wealthy individuals, since they weren’t risking their homes as part of the deal. If pension funds couldn’t invest in corporations, creative people would need to invent other ways for us to save for retirement.

You ask, “how would I be protected" from big corporations?  I suspect you think that government is the answer.  But I believe you will find that a government that thinks it needs to solve all our problems will usually find in favour of big business. Politicians may PROMISE to fight for you, to get your vote, but if the company can argue what they are doing is for the common good, your rights will probably not count for much.

You seem to think democracy is a virtue. Consider this. The winning parties in the last federal and provincial elections in Ontario won with less than 40% of the votes cast, and about half of the eligible voters turned out. So about 20% (more or less) of the voters elected the government, which is now free to impose whatever restrictions it thinks are reasonable on the entire population. Maybe that isn’t tyranny in your books, but I don’t see it as a virtue.

Tim Harnick
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Re: Can Libertarians protect personal rights and freedoms from big business interests?

Corporations are best defined as persons legally. Unfortunately Canadians are more than just persons. We have morals and are patriotic.

Sadly corporations have no morality. They "externalize" all the morality to taxpayers. If they pollute like Westinghouse transformers did in London they move away and leave tons of PCB's in our water and soil WITHOUT CLEANING IT UP. They also leave a  leukemia cluster; poor kids that played in the nearby Pottersburg creek.

Instead of being hung or put in prison they all got bonuses and promotions. This is one sick society we live in.

gasson01
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Re: Can Libertarians protect personal rights and freedoms from big business interests?

Sadly corporations have no morality. They "externalize" all the morality to taxpayers. If they pollute like Westinghouse transformers did in London they move away and leave tons of PCB's in our water and soil WITHOUT CLEANING IT UP. They also leave a leukemia cluster; poor kids that played in the nearby Pottersburg creek.